- der Kiez (Duden)
- Verwaltungsgliederung Berlins (Wikipedia)
- SO36 (Wikipedia)
- Flughafen Berlin-Tempelhof (Wikipedia)
- Goltzstraße (Google Maps)
- Florastraße (Google Maps)
- Kurfürstendamm (Google Maps)
- Bikini Bar (Mall)
- Monkey Bar
- Grunewaldsee (Google Maps)
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[0:09] So are you familiar with the word Kiez? Kieze?
[0:14] No dual lingo has not taught me that yet. What does it mean.
[0:17] Yeah, so Kiez is the Berlin word for neighborhood area,
like in in Berlin you don't have that Tyler which would be the normal german word for area or quarter or neighborhood but we have pizza markets.
Is the neighborhood or area or Yeah, I don't know. What do you say in the US.
[0:43] The neighborhood or like area um in new york, they say like burrows.
[0:49] Burrows, but that's a new york thing. See so different cities have their own kind of name for this concept. And in Berlin the name is Kiez.
[0:58] Gotcha, Kiez. So we're gonna be talking about Kietz today then.
[1:02] Yes, Kieze, the different Kieze. It sounds really dumb when you're using it in an english sentence on Wikipedia, there is a german article called favela tongues glittering.
Berlin meaning kind of the different areas that have their own kind of citizen hall I guess or kind of their own um administration.
And then I had the english version here, Berlin's areas.
[1:31] Wait, so different areas in Berlin have their own kind of like, not government, but they have their own type of system.
[1:40] Right? For example a famous or an example that everybody has to deal with is the finance um like the the tax office, the one that you have to mail your,
tax taxes to and the ones that email you or send you a letter if you're late,
that's from the area that you live in.
And it's also like I think we're gonna basically refer to this map on Wikipedia, that will link in the show notes and I can also make the chapter art on the podcast here.
Um because that's kind of the broad division, but then there's also like smaller divisions that maybe people will refer to kind of, you know my neighborhood is,
for example, she McGahn dwarf, but that's a much smaller thing that probably shows up in the subdivision here on this map.
Yes, it does. Its part of charlottenburg dilemma stuff.
So we're talking about kind of the big areas, the big, the big divisions of Berlin I think.
And the idea I guess, is since we talked about finding a place last time, definitely my experience when I was looking for a place was kind of having this question, okay, where do I even want to live?
So obviously we talked about how it's really difficult right now and you should be flexible, but maybe you have a preference and you want to live in a certain part of town and that kind of requires you to know what different parts of town are like.
[3:07] Yes, I'm excited to talk about this because I think definitely, well you know, I think you have to be flexible if you're able to find those environments that you really drive in.
It's really easy, I think, to make friends, it's really easy to believe, find your place and feel comfortable here. So this is a this is a topic I am super excited to discuss today.
[3:32] For sure, I mean, and it's also Berlin isn't that,
large compared to London or new york or whatever,
but I live in the northern part of Berlin,
in vetting, which is technically, I'm seeing now still part of meta, so technically I live in the center of Berlin but if I have to go to new york or in which is in the south,
It feels really far and it's like a 45 minute bike ride or 30 minutes, 30 minutes on the subway, so I don't go there that often.
So it does kind of obviously, I mean I'm sure there are many people in Berlin who are much more flexible than I am and who Are willing to take a 30 minute subway, right?
Maybe even on a daily basis, but it doesn't, it doesn't matter where you live in terms of kind of your daily environment.
[4:23] So you only travel anywhere that gets you 20 minutes or less.
[4:27] Pretty much. I mean if I like to go buy a bike and anything that's yeah, under 30 minutes is fine, over 30 minutes by bike is unless it's like a really nice sunny day, feels like a chore, you know.
[4:42] That makes sense. So I'm curious to know a little bit about these different types of parts.
Um, I guess I will start with the first asking more about me like I'm an,
[4:54] artist, I'm young, you know, I'm here to meet people and have these really fun experiences, whether the most youthful areas the one that you see a lot of maybe students or young professionals living at.
[5:07] Yeah, so when I hear the words artists and,
I don't know, being an artist and maybe also having an interest in going out, going to bars clubs and living kind of an alternative life.
The one the area that I first think of is either freed resign or quotes back, interestingly on this map, they are grouped together, it's freed resigned quotes back, it's one thing, but there they're both very well known individually,
and so quotes back.
[5:43] Used to be an area that was really defined by its immigrant population.
So a lot of, a lot of Turkish people, I used to live there and still live there.
Um, but it's now heavily gentrified, so it's become very hip, but it still has also kind of this rough around the edges kind of,
there's a lot of markets and I don't know, just kind of bustling daily life going on for sure.
But it's also hip, you know, to go out there and go to a bar and maybe the bars are a little bit grungy and there's a very famous um punk bar where basically,
Germany's punk was born the s. 0. 36 esos excellent prices.
That's includes back and that's still there even, I don't know, 40 years later.
Um, so that's that's definitely a nice place to be.
[6:41] And then free resign, which is bordering it, but it's different,
is kind of probably the most politically left area of Berlin all of Berlin is kind of left leaning politically, but fred resigned, that's really where um kind of.
[7:00] The anarchists that's still, that's still are around um I would say live.
And, by the way, obviously, all of this is sweeping generalizations and sweeping kind of stereotypes and broad characterizations,
but, you know, you get the gist is we're trying to put labels on these different areas and try to describe them as best we can or as best I can, but obviously the exceptions of the world but freed resign also.
I mean, I went there a few times recently to go skate, they have a nice skate park, and my friend Marcus is teaching me how to skateboard, and um, he lives there.
So we go there to skate the Birkin, which we talked about in our first episode is in Free Design, that's a very famous club.
[7:47] Yes, I love that place.
[7:48] There's tons of other clubs and nightlife there.
And yeah, so I would say, you know, if you're an artist and young and you want to go out at night and not go to bed at 11, like me, either of those would be great.
[8:06] Got your Cool. Alright. Well that's probably top of my list and definitely like being in those environments and I,
well there's a lot of like also what I like about living in places that you kind of are you gravitate to naturally is there's a lot of opportunity for um,
spontaneity, you know, things that you don't really play in on doing, and I feel like that place would definitely have that type of like spontaneity, just things going on randomly that you didn't even expect to happen.
[8:33] For sure definitely. Yeah. Yes.
[8:36] So maybe we can talk about noi cone next which is bordering quite sit back and actually the area that is,
kind of the, The area that is bordering quarterback and current kind of the overlapping area is sometimes called COIT scone.
So we're mixing these two names on and I used to live in my car and when I first moved to Berlin in 2012 I lived in which is one of the very big streets in no coon.
And if you're looking at this map is huge. Current is really large and I lived close to the border with quotes back and that already felt pretty far south.
So that's kind of the part I refer to when I said that this is taking me 45 minutes to cycle to but then it goes way, way, way down to the south.
So kind of Noikorn kind of this map includes Noikorn but also brits and then rudo at the very bottom.
So these kind of smaller areas and my concern is now a little bit what Coy's bag used to be.
So a large immigrant population, many people from Turkey but also obviously nowadays many, many other places around the world.
[10:02] And still a little bit easier possibly to find an apartment, an affordable apartment but also kind of quickly becoming more and more hyped and interesting and even when I moved there in 2012,
bars were popping up everywhere and.
[10:22] Kind of galleries and cafes and and things of that nature.
So I think it's definitely a nice place to move to.
I would try not to go too far south just because then you are really kind of you know, far away from the center,
um but yeah, Noikorn definitely a nice place and a very specific vibe,
you know, I don't know, I, I just feel like I know when I'm like if someone were to blindfold me and put me on a bus and then spit me out and I was in the street in Noikorn, I feel like I could probably figure it out.
I don't know, there's just a vibe to Noikorn that's very different from,
the north of Berlin I live in vetting now, which is also um known to be very multi culti and a little bit affordable still,
so in a way it's similar but it still feels very differently, It's hard to describe.
[11:20] Gotcha. So what, like would you say that that area is more family oriented?
Is it more like, like people who are just now trying to find their place in Berlin Like what type of people we see in this area?
[11:38] Yeah, I would say not so much family oriented because it is a little kind of wild west kind of atmosphere.
Not, I mean first of all people always ask like what place in Berlin is the safest and it really has to be said that Berlin is a safe city.
Everyplace in Berlin is safe. Like Berlin is a very safe city and you don't have to worry about not moving to a specific area because it's not as safe.
[12:12] So really like it's not that my current isn't safe to move to.
Um, and I don't actually have any statistics in front of me.
But what I will tell you anecdotally and I'm pretty sure the data backs this up that for example on New Year's Eve,
where in Germany it's still the tradition and still legal to have private fireworks and these kind of rockets and, and, and kind of, I don't even know what they're called, you know, fireworks.
Um, in Northeastern it happens at a level that is scary like it's just,
it, it honestly, I mean it feels like there's a civil war going on on New Year's Eve in because people are just firing those rockets like left and right and it's just explosions everywhere and,
it's, yeah, it's too much.
And so it's, I mean that's one day of the year obviously, but it kind of speaks to how it's a little bit less.
[13:13] Less safe, you know, for lack of a better word, a little bit more kind of things happen and yeah, it's, it's a little bit rougher, but really it's not kind of.
[13:27] Not a safe place I lived there and it was very nice and there, you know, you can go out at night, no problem by yourself, you can go out and have great food from around the world, in the middle of the night,
all of that is fine.
Just compared to some of the more conservative areas or other areas of Berlin it's it's a little kind of the Wild West, I would say.
[13:51] I liked that description in the Wild West of Berlin even though it's south.
[13:56] Yeah, that's true. I'm really trying not to, you know, offend any area or not offend but not kind of give it a bad rap when it's not true.
You know, these are really generalizations, so I'm just stressing that again, it's.
[14:12] I mean that's not a bad rap for me. Honestly. That makes you want to go there even more. I like that type of stuff.
[14:18] Definitely, I think for for some kind of people other areas which just feels so boring and now I can I don't think would get boring, you know.
[14:27] So what places are the more like, I don't want to be in the scene too much. I kind of just like to just chill, just be in the background. Just one just relaxed type of areas.
[14:39] Okay, so let's not go to the very kind of outside areas yet those would obviously be much more relaxed, but also far away.
But let's go to the one that's neighboring Nikon um to the west and that's Tempelhof Schoeneberg.
Again, I would normally look at them separately.
[15:06] So Tempelhof bordering microphone is most famous for Temple Hoffa felt, which is very, very large park that used to be an airport.
So there was an airport called Tempelhof Um and it closed in 2000 googling this really quickly, 2008.
[15:33] So that's when that airport closed. And it was at the time it was interesting for being an airport right in the middle of the city.
Now it's interesting for being a giant park right in the middle of a city.
I think I heard somewhere that no other european capital has an area of park of that size within kind of the main city and it's amazing, it's an amazing place to be.
You can cycle around it or across, you can in line skate, you can kite surf, you can have a picnic, you can have a little garden, you can go there with your dog, you can go for a run.
And in this, I was just there recently with a few friends and my godchild and we were just having a picnic and,
it was kind of one of the first days of spring here in Berlin and it was already pretty packed, just people everywhere, having a barbecue.
There's a few zones where you can have a barbecue and that is really a unique place that,
everybody should visit for sure when they come to Berlin but if you live in Tempelhof or in my career, in which temporal also kind of touches microphone, then you're close and you get to go there every day and so if,
you love being in a big city, but you also hate never being able to.
[16:58] Kind of See more than 100 m because there's always some kind of building in your sight then living close to temple of it is amazing because you can just go there and open your eyes and you have this kind of wide view.
[17:12] So but otherwise I think that's kind of the only thing that Temple who is known for like otherwise I know that there's an IKEA there and otherwise it's pretty,
there's not much going on there, so if you live there that's fine, but you,
you will be going to other places to go out or party or whatever.
[17:34] So this is a side question. Um I know people really do enjoy. I was the outdoors and stuff like that, so like really good.
Whether they do you see a lot of people from different parts of the city kind of congregate to that park as well? Or are there like different parks in different places and people kind of stay in those areas?
[17:54] There are different parks in Berlin and I have a few parks that are close to my place, but nothing rivals Tempelhof.
If you want to go to a park with a lot of trees and maybe go with your dog and kind of be in a park in kind of a regular park with trees then that's one thing.
But Tempelhof airfield is its own unique thing.
There aren't a lot of trees on it. It's literally just kind of the runway of the sub of the airport and it's a different thing and yes, people from all over the city go there on a sunny day to meet their friends and,
or go for a run or go in line skate and it's very unique.
So definitely everybody goes there sometimes for sure.
[18:43] You will see me there.
[18:46] Um so sure in the back, which on this map is grouped with Tempelhof but is actually north of it,
[18:55] is a really, really nice part of Berlin I used to also live in Rhinebeck in gold,
which is arguably one of the most beautiful streets in Berlin It's just really,
man when I lived there, you know, I would leave my apartment and there's just all these restaurants and ice cream parlors and bars, but it's not a big street, it's like a small residential street yet.
It has all these really lovely places, man, I miss Rhinebeck, really nice place also not too far from kind of the center and everything else.
Um, and Tiana beck part of Tiana beck, not the entire quarter, but um, Rhinebeck has within it kind of the main,
gay or LGBTQ plus District of Berlin and that's also,
basically unmissable kind of if you if you cycle through there or you go out at night, you'll quickly realize you are now in the L g b t Q plus district of Berlin.
[20:02] Yes, that's what I'm looking for. You'll find me there, too.
[20:07] Man, but you're falling in love with all these places in the south, we need to get you to the north because that's where all of us live ah but.
[20:14] Oh, I'm a Southern boy. I'm from texas. I love the south.
[20:20] I'm sure a 45 minute bike ride is less of a problem for you than it is for me. So maybe you'll be okay.
So yeah, should we talk about meta, which is north of everything that we just talked about.
[20:36] Yes, that's where vetting is, correct.
[20:40] Yeah, vetting is technically part of meta and I live in vetting and the burger armed meter. So the citizens office meter is right right around my corner.
So um, yes, so basically Mitter houses the actual area called meter but also tear garden more rabbit vetting and cousin opponent.
So if we talk about like Mr, the actual kind of Mr and more beat, these are the places,
that have the government district and the Brandenburg Gate kind of, that's kindergarten.
But that whole area kind of the lower, lower part of meta, that's where the government district is and the Brandenburg gate and a lot of the embassies and that's it.
And that's kind of the interesting part like the biggest mistake that tourists make, especially, I mean, I remember when I, one of my first trips to Berlin as a teenager when we went with our high school.
[21:48] You you think metal okay, that's the center, meta means center and we want to go to the center because that's where it's happening, right?
And I just remember like poor 14 year old 15 year old us,
we would just walk through there at night and it was just dead like there's nothing there and that's because yes, it's the government district and there's like shops and stuff, but there's not a lot of nightlife at all,
and if you want,
a very quiet place to live and you can find an affordable apartment there, good luck then go there, you'll be pretty much close to everything because you're you are in the center but there's nothing happening.
And to be honest it lacks a little bit of soul.
You know, like most, most of the other places that we're talking about, they all have a character, they have a soul, they have,
you know that feeling that I'm describing where you know, someone blindfolds you and puts you there and you kind of feel okay I'm in Juneau back now or I'm in a current or maybe I'm in free design method doesn't have that metal is just like it's just like a,
as if you ordered a european city on the internet on Ebay and I don't know does that make sense?
[23:04] Yes, no, that's a good description of it. Is that where the tv tower is?
[23:09] Yeah. Yeah. The Tv tower.
[23:10] Gotcha? Okay. So yeah, from what you described to me, it seems like not necessarily like the touristy area, but it's like the kind of I guess you mean you described it the best is like if you order like a european city, that's pretty much it.
[23:25] Exactly, yeah, pretty boring, actually don't spend too much time there, I mean I would, I would be okay living there and actually I do live there.
So vetting is technically a part of me to, but it is like people know vetting as its own thing because vetting is and it's their vetting.
[23:44] So it has an article, they are vetting is um like my current a little more rough around the edges, a little bit more kind of more diversity and more affordable places still.
Um and my place is really affordable as we learned recently,
um and but it is close to the center and kind of the north to um Prince Lebec which we'll talk about.
So yeah, vetting and Cousin Pronin which are bordering each other.
I would really recommend if you don't want to live in the south for some reason or you can't find a place in free resign or cut back on a cone or schoenberg.
[24:30] Vetting is a good place to look because it it's still affordable, but it is, I mean there's a joke which has been a joke for a long time that people,
say they're getting comped and what that means is like,
it's It's turning into like a hip place right?
Like it's still it's still not a hip place, but it's gonna be, it's gonna be the next coins back, just wait.
And the joke is that people have been saying that for 20 years now and it still hasn't really happened,
but I like that, I like that, it hasn't happened, like you know, it's not super hip, there's not that much nightlife here or whatever, but it's close to everything, it's affordable and it feels cool.
[25:14] That's good. No that's good. I don't know that. That's a funny statement. Um That is not there. But it is there.
I mean like what would you say to the demographic? Is is it a lot more like people more in their 30s and 40s? Is it more like older crowd?
[25:32] So I'm Googling this so that I don't make too many mistakes, Wikipedia says along with quotes back and I would add my current here.
But that's just me vetting is one of the most ethnically diverse localities in Berlin The multicultural atmosphere is visible in the bilingual shop, science predominantly german and Turkish or german and Arabic and so on.
So yeah, it's, it's very multicultural, which I really like and enjoy.
Um, so, and, and then there's the young people that moved to Berlin and are able to find a place there,
or at least a place that they can ford, which is great and also dangerous because gentrification kind of people that have been here for a long time are being pushed out in a way,
that's the problem everywhere in Berlin of course, but that's just the reality I think.
[26:29] Yeah, that's everywhere in the world we have that we have a big problem that in austin texas.
[26:33] No, so yeah, we covered a lot of the kind of important ones.
[26:40] The one that we definitely still have to talk about is Prince Lola back.
[26:48] And if you, if you watch easy german, I know a lot of easy german viewers and listeners are listening to this, then you know, Prince Lebec from the videos,
it's a beautiful place.
Um it used to be in the east of Berlin which leads to the fact that it has pretty wide sidewalks, which makes it great for filming videos, but also it's just very walkable.
It's just nice to walk around there because there's space for pedestrians there and it is very hip.
So this place is definitely already there, it's extremely hip,
millions of restaurants, it feels like and just,
cafes and hip shops and the mama pack Flomax, like this famous flea market is in principle Quebec and the mama pack, which is a famous park and,
yeah, just um a really nice place, but pretty much impossible to find an affordable, affordable place these days.
The stereotype is that rich people coming from the south of Germany are moving there.
It's a little bit of a stereotype. But yeah, it is true that you know, there's people with money coming to Berlin from the south and they kind of want to go there with their families and it's really nice.
And so the stereotype is young, rich people with kids go there.
[28:16] And there's also a lot of um kind of famous people who live in Quebec, kind of everyone who has money Mhm, moves to Prince La back, it feels like.
[28:29] Contra. Okay, so that's like all right, that's that's the celebrity area, that's what I'm gonna call it.
[28:35] Yeah, that's good. And then Quebec is technically a part of Panko, as you can see on this map.
[28:42] Um but the actual Panko, which is north of Prince Lebec is really nice and a little bit more normal.
Like not quite as you know, hip and bustling with restaurants and cafes and tourists and people.
It's a little bit more residential but also just really nice and beautiful.
And um for example, Flora Strasser is one of another beautiful street in Berlin,
and if you can find a place in Panko, I think that's pretty awesome because you're really close to Prince Lebec and it's minus the craziness, Right?
And maybe a little bit more affordable. It used to be affordable because there was the airplane noise from the airplanes landing in Tegel.
The airport Tegel, but that airport closed in favor of the newbie er Berlin Brandenburg Airport.
So now there's no airport noise anymore and I think the prices are quickly rising as well, but uncle I would definitely recommend. And then you can go further north on this map.
But then yeah, it's you're going to get further and further away from the rest of the city.
[30:00] Are there still parts of the city that are would you say like that would you say are still being developed? Like there's still like construction, you can see like buildings being um created like every now and again.
[30:11] Everywhere everywhere. And that that's also another thing that people say about Berlin that is just a giant construction site and it used to be true and it's still true today and I think,
that's a good thing because as we talked about Berlin really needs more apartments and so the apartments are being built um I guess it's happening way more.
[30:38] Kind of,
well it happens more where there's space, right?
So I don't know or freed, resign or coy spec, I don't think there's that much space and there's these really nice old buildings.
Um I don't know that you can build that many more buildings right there.
But if you venture out a little bit, a little bit north of Panko maybe or if you go to the east or to the west, definitely places are being belt, there's one big area here that's still,
very much in the center and that's charlottenburg or charlottenburg verma's dwarf and charlottenburg.
The actual smaller area is bordering meta.
So it's west of wa beat and tear garden, which by the way, I didn't mention that in meta.
[31:31] There's this area called Tiergarten and Tiergarten is the other really big park in Berlin like if Berlin had a central park, it would be Tier Garten, not Tempelhof,
and it's just this really big part near the Brandenburg gait and stuff,
but bordering that is charlottenburg and charlottenburg also has a very particular flavor and if you are coming to Berlin but maybe you are a little bit more on the conservative side or maybe you like.
[32:07] I don't know a little bit less of the craziness and you know vetting where I live definitely has a garbage problem which,
is something that bothers me and I sometimes go outside and clean up my own street,
just because it's you know, it's so messy um you won't find those problems in charlottenburg, charlottenburg used to be kind of the,
when Berlin was still divided, like that was where, where it was happening in West Berlin cool first and um that really famous shopping street,
is there, so maybe paris has the Shawn's Elyse and Berlin has called christendom right and the car DVD coffeehouses, westerns,
one Super Famous Department store that sells everything is there and,
Berlin first, apple store is there and kind of that's just kind of West Berlin high society,
people be seen see and be seen whatever kind of that kind of flavor is there.
[33:11] Is that where the mall is as well?
[33:14] Um there are, there is a mall there called, what's it called?
There are several malls in Berlin obviously, but there is a famous one, there.
[33:24] It's kind of big. It's like, it's like two parts and like there's like, you can like walk over, like you can walk to the other part where it has like a food cord or whatnot.
[33:35] Um I think you're thinking of mall of Berlin and that would be in metal storm orbit that's close to kind of potsdamer platz um that whole area,
the one in Berlin is called bikini bikini and that's a mall and even the mall it feels a little fancier like I remember going there and,
yeah, it just feels everything feels a little bit high society and fancy and there's a,
rooftop bar on the building kind of next to bikini next to that mall,
and you can have a drink there and,
see the monkeys in the zoo because the zoo's right underneath from there.
And I think it's called monkey bar and nowadays if you, it used to be kind of a secret tip now if you go there, you'll cue for a very long time and it's not that great of a bar that it,
Warrants queuing for two hours I think personally.
Um so charlottenburg, I have friends who live there and they love it,
but it is kind of a little bit more less crazy, you know, it's kind of the opposite of re resign like if if Berlin had a more conservative population,
it would be in Charlottetown book I would say.
[34:58] So this is the area that I'll be when I want to feel rich and I want to feel like I have the money to afford half that stuff.
[35:05] Yeah, I don't know, I don't know about that.
I mean it's nice to go shopping on coffees and I'm lots of stores there, there's an H. And M.
And the Starbucks Every 10 m it feels like and all the chain stores and stuff.
Um I used to work there, I used to work in the apple store there.
So I used to go there a lot um but I lived in Shona Back which is not that far but feels like it has a little bit more character to be honest, charlottenburg,
I feel like is more older people who have been there their whole lives and you know don't want to leave.
[35:47] That makes sense. That makes sense. I have that area up here and,
in like um Austin in those places where the more established people who are experienced and I kind of found they're really they're strong grounding in the city kind of lives.
[36:05] Yeah, I would say those are kind of the most well known talked about,
[36:16] you should know about areas maybe we can ah go through the rest of the ones on this map quickly.
Um just to you know I'm a completionist, I like to not leave anything out but I don't know that much about them.
So rainy condor is even north of vetting and like I said it already feels like I'm living pretty far in the north, so it includes to go where that airport used to be rainy condor, eternal.
So yeah, you're living kind of far in the north if you live there, that's pretty much what I know about the weekend off,
spandau is west of charlottenburg and,
I think it's just extremely residential kind of people who have been here for a while or who are moving their families, I'm sure kind of very normal, a little bit further out.
[37:18] Stieglitz standoff in the south south of charlottenburg and Groeneveld,
is um known for, well I know it because there's a shopping street there um that I was at once, there is a globetrotter if you want to buy a backpack.
[37:37] Um otherwise yeah, darlin Thailand off once again to me who's always lift pretty centrally it feels further out but um I have a friend who lives and,
Magomedov close to Dalam and it's a little bit further out but it's nice and there's families there and stuff,
then we have crypto cur panic which is that whole part in the southeast of Berlin.
[38:11] Once again, I don't know that much about it, lots of nature there, I think you can even tell kind of from, from the names,
provider almost sounds like it's very green, I haven't been there but the spray, the river Berlin river goes through there so there's some water there for sure,
anecdotally, I know that several people who moved two Berlin from other countries found places there.
So I assume that you know it's a little bit easier to find a place there and then you just take the S bahn when you have to go or when you want to go to the city.
[38:52] And then there's Liston back which is actually still pretty central, there's also an Ikea in lichtenberg, there's three A K.
S in, in Berlin listen beck is the biggest one and once again, I don't think there's much that's happening there,
but you're still close enough to Prince lower back and meter that it's probably okay to live in Edinburgh,
and then Matteson Matteson basically it's known for these high rises, these gigantic kind of platon bolton,
platon bowel in english is building made from prefabricated slabs.
So these giant buildings where there's hundreds of apartments in one high rise building,
that's kind of what Madsen is known for quite far outside and,
yeah, just kind of these very large buildings housing a lot of people,
I'm sure it's much more affordable than living in the center, but definitely you are kind of further out and probably going to live in one of those giant buildings.
[40:09] Gotcha and what about trapped our trap toe?
[40:14] Yeah, crypto is I grouped with crypto cur panic but crypto is kind of the northern part.
Right, so we have pepto there.
So yeah, so that kind of northern part.
Pepto polenta violet, that is south of free resign.
Um so it's kind of you know on the same height as Macron,
obviously these are really big groups so there, I would just kind of look at the map and see how far is it from metal.
I actually have a friend Jack, my friend Jack um who is definitely going to come on this show to talk about bicycles among among other things, lives in crypto and there's a nice park, their crypto a park.
So yeah, that's definitely also a cool place to live close to courts, back, close to freezing.
Lakes, Parks And The Outdoors
[41:09] I see there's like a lake and stuff like that do are like a lot of these lakes and stuff uh, accessible.
[41:17] Yeah, man, I feel like we need to invite an expert on this podcast to talk about where to go if you're craving nature because,
the only place that I've gone to recently a lot is Grunwald Z, which is the lake in,
the forest called Groeneveld.
Um, and it is a very nice lake to go to.
Um, if you have a dog and I had a few foster dogs because you can, it's very dark, friendly, you can take a walk all around the coronavirus and there's even a dog beach, There's a beach for dogs,
and it's very lovely and it's very, it's, it's a nice reset.
Just going there, walking around the whole lake takes you an hour and you feel refreshed and there's definitely many more places like that in and around Berlin but I'm really not an expert on it because I usually just sit on my butt,
[42:21] Mm hmm. So this is very, very informative.
How To Choose A Neighborhood
[42:25] I already know the areas that I'm looking at.
But obviously, you know, I think one thing that I have to keep in mind um is whenever I get there, I might not be in the ideal area that I want to be in.
But I think that makes it easier to look for a place that you do want to be in, you know, because I think that was one of the daunting things about like where to Berlin and like looking online, it was like what area do you want to be?
And I'm like, I don't know like I don't know these different types of areas, but I feel like I definitely have like a lot, a lot more clarity on places that I'll probably feel the most comfortable exploring and you know, growling myself in.
[43:03] So given kind of the information that you now have, what's your top three, which places do you see yourself in.
[43:11] Um schoenberg Yeah, Schellenberg. Okay. Also just forgive me for my pronunciation because it's a struggle.
[43:13] Cena back?
[43:20] Um Schaumburg, um new colon, Yes. And then Frederick, Sand and Duisburg.
[43:20] You are forgiven,
[43:31] It's back yeah, man, okay, nice, okay, yeah, definitely.
I mean I also really associate my Berlin beginnings with corn and then Tiana beck and those areas and it's, I think it's good because,
it's very, it's very, those places are very Berlin I feel like you're really going to get to know Berlin when you're there, not that you don't get to know Berlin,
when you're living in other places, but the place that I'm living in now is definitely a lot quieter, you know, and less,
I don't know less crazy in a way,
which I now like, but when you first get here, I think it's nice to just throw yourself into one of those places and even if you don't find a place there, you know, you can just go there and hang out and,
you know, go to places and,
yeah, I wouldn't worry if you can't find a place right there.