Bank Accounts, Phone Plans, Schufa, Gyms and Cheap Meals

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Manuel:
[0:09] Thank you for listening. We've already had some great feedback and a first supporter who's buying us a coffee on a monthly basis.

Jack:
[0:16] Oh, wow, congratulations you two. That's such an achievement. Everyone doc Berlin.

Manuel:
[0:17] Yes, thank you. Thank you. You can go to everyone dot Berlin slash contribute if you want to send us money and money coincidentally is the topic that we'll talk about today.

Jack:
[0:26] The next money.

[0:31] Very well done. Mm hmm.

Manuel:
[0:32] Even though J really doesn't want to talk about it, but boring but necessary, necessary and you've done so well.

Jae:
[0:36] I just felt it was a little bit boring, but it is necessary. It is necessary.

Jack:
[0:37] But it is necessary, necessary. And you've done so well so far.

Jae:
[0:41] Yeah. You know, let me pat myself on the back really quick.

Jack:
[0:44] So yeah, bank account. I mean you opened one kind of the first day and there's not that much to say. I guess all the foreigners open an account with.

Manuel:
[0:45] So yeah, bank account, I mean you opened one kind of the first day and there's not that much to say I guess because all the foreigners Open an account within 26 because it's the easiest.

Jae:
[0:45] So okay, you opened one and Yeah, in 26. Mhm.
Where there's.

[1:00] It is easiest. Even I once spoke to a financial and he was like, are you with interest be with them?

Jack:
[1:00] Mhm. Even I once spoke to a financial advisor randomly and he was like, are you within 26? You should be within 26.

Manuel:
[1:01] Even I once spoke to a financial advisor randomly and he was like You within 26, you should be within I think even the non foreigners.

Jack:
[1:07] So I think even the non foreigners Recommended in 26.

Jae:
[1:07] So I think environment recommended in twins.

Manuel:
[1:11] But here's the thing and 26 is not a good bank like Yes, well, I mean, what is your criteria version kind of not doing illegal things for example.

Jae:
[1:13] Not like I mean is your criteria very good back And the thank you.

Jack:
[1:14] Good bank like, well, I mean, what is your criteria for a good bank?
Kind of not doing illegal things? I think you're ruling out basically all banks do not earn money.

Jae:
[1:24] What is illegal things. You are, you really are.

Manuel:
[1:30] Do not earn money. No, but in 26 has been doing some shady stuff.

Jae:
[1:34] It has been like what? Mhm.

Jack:
[1:34] Has been doing some.

Manuel:
[1:37] Dude, I don't know the details.

Jack:
[1:37] I had Deutsche Bank before. So that's like or they lead the way in bad banks.

Jae:
[1:38] I had before. So that's like, okay, they believe the way banks, but what is shaded.

Manuel:
[1:41] Okay, that's potentially even worse because yes, okay.
I have forgot all the news stories that I read, but there were a lot of news stories about, Right?

Jack:
[1:47] I have forgotten stories. I think it was a while ago.
Yeah. And early on when they weren't really a bank, this is all. Yeah, they were like a startup bank and then they officially became a bank. And we're like, oh, shut down people's accounts, stuff like this. But yeah, it was a long time ago.

Manuel:
[1:54] They kind of pretended to be a bank long before they really wear one became a bank and we're like, oh yeah,
for example, I would not feel like, I don't think it's, it's an issue necessarily, but if you have a lot of money and you want to like have it in a bank account.
I don't know if I would choose n 26 but I don't know if I trust them, you know that being said, they have a good app I hear and they let everybody sign up very easily.
So I do think it's kind of probably the best thing to do when you just get here.

Jae:
[2:26] And they have very fancy cards. You don't want to see my I paid way too much money for this card. I am with look at this. It's like the Apple cards. But yeah, like.

Jack:
[2:29] Very fancy cards. Yeah. Yeah, I ate way too much.

Manuel:
[2:31] Hey wait you have a black, wow like the apple cart, wow, can I see it?

Jack:
[2:33] You have a black account, wow, that is fancy.
Oh my gosh, it's like yeah, okay, your fancy that DKB.

Manuel:
[2:42] Silver, golden premium membership.

Jae:
[2:43] I paid for the premium membership.

Manuel:
[2:46] Of course you do. Um I will just say that DKB,
Bank is like nope it's not horrific like N 26 it's like online first like they don't have any.

Jack:
[2:53] Horrific.
Mm hmm, mm hmm.

Manuel:
[3:03] Buildings online Like online what online meant in the 90s.

Jack:
[3:03] But I would say it's online first. Like online, what online meant in the 90s?
It's like they're very they're very slow to adapt to like apps and basic what online means.

Manuel:
[3:09] Which is when I grew up and basic the what online means now they've started to have like an app that is relative, seems.

Jack:
[3:16] Now they've started to have like an app that is relative, seems Like on par with apps that were built past 2010, but they're very slow and they're also a little bit more.

Manuel:
[3:22] Like on par with Apps that were built past 2010.
But they're very true and they're also a little bit more selective in terms of accepting people but they are the conditions are a little bit better.

Jack:
[3:32] Yeah, but they are, yeah, they declined me like when I first, when I first so I got a deutsche bank account in a completely random location when I first moved to Berlin because I was just in the city somewhere.
And then whenever you had to do something with that account, they're like, oh you have to go back to that deutsche Bank.
And I was like what? It was ridiculous. And then I once I was like I'll get a DKB account and then they refused me because I was I didn't have a residency at the time.
So then I waited five years to get residency and as soon as I got it I gotta DKB account only to find out that their horrific Yeah, only to find out that actually, yeah.

Jae:
[4:14] You had five years you had five years to to find something. No 26 in that time, which really good. This is called toxicity. Just like I just don't like being told no.

Jack:
[4:17] Mhm. Mhm.
Bad blood. Oh no I had I had n 26 in that time which was really good.
It is it is, it was also just like I I just don't like being told. No. And then once I finally got what I had been refused, I realized that I didn't want it.

Jae:
[4:29] Once I finally got what I had been used, I realized that I didn't want it.

Jack:
[4:35] Yeah, just like it's problematic.

Jae:
[4:35] That's the definition of life just for everybody.

Manuel:
[4:41] So just I think one of the major differences is that with DKB you can Get cash as much as you want for free and within 26 unless you have like the fancy premium thing.

Jae:
[4:41] Just major maybe you can get cash Much as one for free and with Oh yeah, you have like a limited amount of.

Manuel:
[4:53] It's yeah three times per month for like the both of them are free, which is kind of crazy that most banks aren't that way necessarily.
So if you go to like focus bank or Sparkasse like one of the traditional banks where you actually have buildings and you can go and talk to someone those if you open an account it will just cost money, it will cost €20 a month or something like this.
I don't know the exact prices but DKB and then 26 are free and they give you so they don't So the one thing that we should maybe explain is that.

Jack:
[5:15] €20 a month okay.

Manuel:
[5:25] Basically there's two types of cards in Germany, the credit cards are still,
among us, they knew but many Germans still don't have a credit card,
And kind of DKB and N 26 for them.
The credit card is like the main card and that's the card that you use to withdraw money and that's why withdrawing money is free.
Ish and you can go to any bank account, any any ATM,
even worldwide which is kind of the the big benefit of these banks is that you can just pick up money anywhere where you come from anywhere else in the world, that's the card that you get exactly.

Jack:
[5:59] Yeah. Kind of if you come from anywhere else in the world that's the card that you get everywhere and in Germany they just have this other one zero contour or drive a cart or it C. Carter.

Manuel:
[6:06] The other one is called zero contour or zero carter or c carter I don't even know what the official word is but that's basically connected to your debit account. Is that the word you would use?

Jack:
[6:12] I don't even know what the official word is but that's basically connected to your.
Yeah I think it would I think it's somehow related to debit and you can't use it online.

Manuel:
[6:21] I think it's somehow related to it and you can't use it online, you can only use it.

Jack:
[6:24] You can only use it at, I don't know, located in shock.

Manuel:
[6:28] In shops and to withdraw money. But if you withdraw money it can only be at the owned banks ATMs and that's why you see so many like the traditional banks like folks bank Sparkasse Deutsche Bank, they have so many,
kind of locations because if you're a customer, you always want to go there to pick up money and that's kind of the old kind of standard way it was done in Germany.
Like most people, they're either at Fox Bancorp's bacchus and when they want to pick up money they're looking for a folks bank has said to pick up money.

Jack:
[6:59] I've spent way too long in like freezing cold winter nights hiking like kilometers with german people to be like no I will not Get money out at a nun at not my bank.

Manuel:
[7:00] Way too long in like freezing cold winter nights, hiking like kilometers with german people to be like, no, I will not.
Yeah, because then it costs €5.

Jack:
[7:12] I will not pay €5. I'm like oh my God, time is money. You have like your were worth more than this as like a teenager and I don't remember a single time that I didn't withdraw money.

Manuel:
[7:14] Oh my God, time is money. You have like were worth more than this.
Look, I used to be at Fox Bank as like a teenager and I don't remember a single time that I didn't withdraw money from a folks bank. I think it's like.

Jack:
[7:26] I think it's like it's problematic. It was also like there when you have rules like this where you can only get money out at your own a team you would think there would be more ATMs but the city had none.
Now there are like a few but they're all these generic euro card ATMs which I don't know. I don't even know if the ec cards work there if that's what you're saying.

Manuel:
[7:48] I think they do. Yeah. Yeah I just would say and if you go to the post office you can't use a Visa card still you have to use.

Jack:
[7:49] But there. Yeah, I just would say and if you go to the post office you can't use a Visa card still you have to use an ec.
Yeah it's wild and they're a bank. It's post punk and you can then no credit cards only eat sea or cash In 2022.

Manuel:
[7:59] That's interesting. Yeah that's why they're a bank In 2020.
So our recommendation bottom line is get em 26 if you just want to get over with quickly, if you want to maybe reap the benefits of a traditional online bank then sign up for DKB.

Jack:
[8:08] Our Germany is wild. get in 26 if you just want to get over with quickly if you want to maybe reap the benefits of lot. Thanks.
What did we did we had what were the benefits um like better conditions and your money might not just disappear.

Manuel:
[8:24] Like better conditions and your money might not like might be actually safe.

Jack:
[8:29] Okay I hope that links.

Manuel:
[8:30] Yes Um we'll put links to both but I think a good benefit for people moving to Berlin would be that and 26 the app is available in multiple languages and they also will support you in multiple languages whereas DKB.

Jack:
[8:32] But I think a good benefit for people moving to Berlin would be that N 26.
The app is available in multiple languages and they also will support you in multiple languages, whereas DKB refuses to speak anything but german.

Manuel:
[8:44] Refuses I think anything but I don't think they even have a support team like I don't think you can talk to them can you?

Jack:
[8:47] I mean, their current were DKB Oh, they can't actually.

Manuel:
[8:51] We're DKB Oh they can't actually I did I I called them once.

Jack:
[8:54] I called them one. Yeah, I've emailed them and they were just like nine, whereas N 26 has been um quite helpful.

Manuel:
[8:55] Yeah 9 26 has been but yeah or bind happy customer.

Jae:
[9:04] Yeah, I've been with them for nine days and I have no complaints so far.
I'm a happy customer. I mean like, especially if you guys are thinking about, we're in the first steps of moving. So if you just need something just again, this is all what I'm about was just getting my feet like flat on the ground, Get in 26. It's easy.
I'll mail your card in a few days and you'll at least be able to start, you know, like getting money in euros were coming from the States or be able to transfer out of people's money to um because I think they also have a partnership with Transferwise.

Jack:
[9:32] Mm. Because I think they also have a partnership with Transferwise, so it's like transferring.

Jae:
[9:36] Yeah, it's, it's so, it's so easy. It's so easy.

Jack:
[9:37] Internationalist, super chill. And um yeah and like I said, it's all from like a so you get the metal card that costs In 90 per month.

Jae:
[9:40] Um and like I said, it's all from like an app like nine.

Manuel:
[9:43] So you get the metal card that costs 1690 per month? Why what what?

Jae:
[9:49] Yeah, well it's actually cheaper because I did the annual um they have insurance on it and okay, so this is the whole thing that I'm just talking about.

Jack:
[9:49] What did you do? Did they ensure your bike?

Jae:
[10:01] Like I've, my relationship with money has been a journey, right?
And I just decided that when I was going to come here, I wanted to feel luxurious. I really did.
So I, I wanted to treat myself. I did, I really did. And like I put money aside of course for everything.
Um and then I saw that I was like, fun. I have the money for, it is a cool card.
Why not? And it ensures me in like different ways. I'm playing on doing a lot of traveling and stuff.
So like just like the other benefits of it probably would have will benefit me probably in the long run.

Manuel:
[10:39] Winter Sports Insurance Put Some Skis on.

Jae:
[10:39] Hey, you never know, I'm maybe going to Switzerland soon.

Jack:
[10:43] I actually want you to have several types of delays while flying and because I would like to see what kind of coverage they actually have like I think.

Jae:
[10:45] I'd be curious flying in and out of Berlin through B. R.

Jack:
[10:53] We need some like proper hands on experience and if you're flying in and out of Berlin through B. R.
You will have delays and you will have luggage issues.

Jae:
[10:58] You will have delays and you will have Exactly.

Jack:
[11:01] So actually I think it's you should it's going to be worth it for sure.

Jae:
[11:04] It's gonna be worth it in the long run. And like my biggest thing is I don't mind shoveling a little bit extra money for a lot of the security, you know, thank you.

Jack:
[11:08] I mean actually that's also in the free column as well.

Manuel:
[11:13] And Hey You Get Chatbot Support 2024.

Jae:
[11:14] Jack I get chatbots support 24 7.

Jack:
[11:20] You get but you get dedicated in 26 metal line.

Jae:
[11:20] You get. I did,
yes, that's special. I don't even know what it is, but yeah, I'm a little bit jealous of the middle card, but I literally never touch my car.

Jack:
[11:25] That should I also um,
yeah I'm a little bit jealous of the metal card but I literally never touch my card, it's all in my phone so.

Jae:
[11:33] I never do either, but I've been doing it now just because I just, just because I want to use it, I'm just like, I just look at it, I'm like okay, cool, cool.
I mean you don't need it, I'm hella extra. Um and like I said, I just was like hell why not?
Um but you can get the normal free card and still let them have a great life be ready.

Jack:
[12:01] And did you have to have um did you have to be registered somewhere to sign up?

Jae:
[12:05] Um Yeah, well you need like, like yeah, like an address to like ship your card and stuff like that.

Jack:
[12:06] Yeah but not an official one.

Manuel:
[12:11] You don't the in melding. That's a good question. Mhm.

Jae:
[12:11] Not, no, no, there's no there was no requirement on monday.

Jack:
[12:11] You haven't you haven't been doing okay because I think when I first.

Manuel:
[12:16] Because I think when I first a bank account there was something we were like you have to have Registered 1st.

Jack:
[12:19] Got a bank account there was something we were like, oh you have to have registered first, it was just it was a lot of work and weird.

Manuel:
[12:23] It was just it was a lot of work.
Yeah. Yeah it's mine.

Jack:
[12:28] So it's it's too much much better now.

Manuel:
[12:31] Okay. I'm glad we covered the bank topic. Next. Let's quickly talk Sufa. Exactly. Let's talk about Sufa which I think we touched upon in the first episode.
And there isn't that much to say basically I think in the US you have a credit credit score.

Jae:
[12:45] A credit score but we use that with our credit cards, so I'm curious how does the shoot for working people don't have credit cards here?

Manuel:
[12:52] Actually everybody is curious because it's a secret and they won't tell anyone and yeah it's it's crazy.

Jae:
[12:55] Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. No one knows how their credit scores are.

Manuel:
[12:59] Um It's shu fa is a crazy thing that exists because it's actually a private company.
But they basically have this secret private database of everybody.
And they have a ranking system that is also secret and they basically determine in the end whether or not you will get a credit whether or not you can buy a house whether or not you get an apartment.
They have so much power and it's really really crazy.
Um And you have been criticized a lot people have been trying to reverse engineer and kind of figure out the scoring system by people voluntarily contributing their data and then there's chef a score.
And like there have been attempts like this basically the things that will influence it very obviously same as in the U. S.
If you are in debt and you're not paying off the debt and things like that.

Jae:
[13:59] But that's only if you have a credit card to have that right or like an overdraft.

Manuel:
[14:01] You know you could have like a private yeah an overdraft or even if you just like you can go to your bank and say, hey, can you lend me money and that's it.

Jack:
[14:11] It's also like if you have like a phone contract, no phone contracts, any sort of contract.

Manuel:
[14:14] Phone contracts, play a huge, any sort of contract is in there anything that your monthly paying on a monthly basis. If you fall behind, that's bad.
It's not like in the US where you basically want to,
have credit early on and like actually be in debt and paying it like that's, that always seems crazy to me that in the US in order to get a good credit score, you want to borrow money and pay it off and that's like a good sign.
It doesn't work like that. Like if you never borrow money at at all ever you have and all the other factors are also good, Then you have 100% score. Like that doesn't help you. International.

Jae:
[14:48] So do internationals have like an advantage sometimes because when they come here and is the only developed once you get a bank account, like do I have a shoe for now that I have you have residency and they have.

Manuel:
[14:52] Yes. Is a shoe for only,
have a Yeah, I think now, I think as soon as you have residency and they have any information about you at all that they start building your profile is how I imagine it.

Jae:
[15:01] Information all that they start,
residency as in like an on hold on.

Manuel:
[15:08] Read because that actually also, and this is like the really shady part that also factors in like, I think none of this is official.

Jae:
[15:09] Oh then I don't really shady part that also and think this is basically if you live anywhere that will hurt.

Manuel:
[15:18] But I think basically if you live in a poorer neighborhood that will hurt your sofa score, which is ridiculous.

Jae:
[15:25] Interesting.

Manuel:
[15:25] Like it's basically, it's very shady. But basically what you want to try and do in order to keep a positive score is to never fall behind on any official payments.

Jae:
[15:27] Very okay. Do you want to try and in order to keep a positive score is to never payments?
Um cute. You getting tired? Pay your tax.

Manuel:
[15:36] Um, If you do get a credit, pay it off, pay your tax.

Jae:
[15:42] The normal things just be a good citizen. Y'all this private company will Whoa.

Manuel:
[15:42] Yeah, that, and the reason that's important is, and then.

Jack:
[15:47] This private company will reward you with a good score.

Jae:
[15:52] Who owns that? I was, I don't know. I didn't know it was private Germany is so contradictory.

Jack:
[15:53] I don't know. I didn't know it was private that feels Germany is so contradictory in wild ways, whether like we're super secret and you're not allowed to know who I am and we can't have google street view.

Jae:
[15:57] Why? Always with like with Super secret and you're not allowed to know who I am.
Street view here. Is this recovery really everything about me.

Jack:
[16:03] But here is this private company that knows literally everything about me, and it's like a like this like Romeo and Juliet someone has.

Jae:
[16:07] I feel like that makes like a good like movie plot of like this like Romeo and Juliet secret shoot for Kidd.

Manuel:
[16:16] Okay. So you usually need a shoe for house conference.
So like a report when you are looking for a flat.
I think that's the biggest one for people sometimes maybe for a job or if you're doing some kind of big contract mostly though, if you're like looking to rent a place people want to know, hey, you know, has this person paid,
there their stuff in the past and,
You can go to their website and buy it for 29-95 and then they send you like a fancy one on paper and via email.
But at least there's been a law that says that you can get it for free twice per year and that's obviously like hidden on their website but you can get it for free.
You just need to send them an email or fill out some form. I will find it and link it in the show notes.
The thing is it will then they look like it won't look pretty. It's just like a letter that has all the information that they have about you.
Um and it's not redacted like the official one that's €30.
There is one that just says it's positive and no other information and that's the one that you give your landlord.
The one that's free just has all of the information on it.
Like this is the contracts we have these other bank accounts we have about you. Like they just they're legally obliged to tell you the information that they have about you. So you know, so you can also try to correct it if it's wrong. So you should get the free version anyway.
But if you're looking for a place Sadly I think you should probably still pay the $30.

Jae:
[17:44] Just because it makes it easier for the land lower density, you want every.

Manuel:
[17:46] Yeah and you don't have to like predict it and you want everything to look perfect when you're looking for a place.

Jae:
[17:51] That would suck to pay €30 and then it's negative.

Jack:
[17:54] Like nine. Yeah. It's like, Oh yeah, you just yeah, yeah, yeah.

Manuel:
[17:56] Yeah.
Now it's even negative for it's even worse.
I had to get in, go into debt for this. And now you're telling me.

Jack:
[18:03] You just paid to be shut down.
I think you can also do it. I went into Post Punk very recently and a lot of I found out about no credit cards, only cash, you see. And also they had some signs about doing a shoot for their in.

Manuel:
[18:10] Very recently and a lot of and at about note only cash you see and also they had some signs about doing a shoot for them probably.

Jack:
[18:20] So I think that's also helpful sometimes.

Manuel:
[18:21] I think that's also yeah post offices. They can be useful.

Jae:
[18:26] Can be used. So that's the quote of the day, the currents, some cards and phone plan. Okay.

Manuel:
[18:28] Let's talk about some cards. Phone plan.
I'm can I just say j I'm a little disappointed because you just ran out into the world and did it all without consulting anyone.

Jae:
[18:37] No

[18:42] Anyone. I really so that's a that's a toxic traitor by I do a lot of my life.

Manuel:
[18:47] That's a toxic traitor. Do that a lot.

Jae:
[18:51] I just go out and I just do things and then I messed up and then I'm like okay.

Manuel:
[18:53] That sucks. And then it's our fault because we didn't tell you.

Jae:
[18:58] No. Um No I was well it was honestly it was just because like so I was on like my international plan and that's $10 a month.

Manuel:
[18:58] No. Um No I was because like So I was on like my international plan and that's $10 of mine. No it was a day.

Jae:
[19:07] No no $10 a day to use my data. So I was like I just got to find something like like just really quick or whatnot.

Manuel:
[19:09] What I just really I just rain.

Jack:
[19:13] Yeah, I would have done that before getting a bank account.

Jae:
[19:14] So I just ran into the store. Yeah.

Manuel:
[19:16] Yeah. Yes And now actually I'm going with the one aria which is the one that I have because that's how that spread.

Jae:
[19:17] You see and now actually I'm going with the one that um carrie has um kong star. Yeah. Yes. Amazing. C. Yeah.

Jack:
[19:20] Carrie has, which is the one that I have.
I also used to be with us that they were quite good.

Manuel:
[19:26] They were quite good and now.

Jack:
[19:28] Now I got like a chefs contract through work or whatever with 02, which is the same network as Kong star 02.

Manuel:
[19:30] The chefs contract through what 0. 2 which is the same name.
No. Con stars telecom.

Jack:
[19:40] Maybe I wasn't with constant, maybe I was with, there's another one That's quite bad and they they use the 02 network which is bad and then they also don't get prioritized on that network.
So it's, it was ridiculous. And so that's now that I'm with 02, it's good.

Jae:
[19:57] We have a two different experiences. You walk so I could write and it's there is based.

Jack:
[20:00] Some had to struggle before they arrived.

Manuel:
[20:06] Let's go three steps back and explain. There's basically three big companies in Germany that control the actual networks like they that actually put up their own antennas and they like run the infrastructure.

Jae:
[20:11] Roll the actual but i without their own antennas and they were like Russia all right. Um Which is like the underdog.

Manuel:
[20:19] And the three companies are Deutsche telekom which is like the underdog in the States but is the big one here.

Jae:
[20:24] Yeah it really is. Um Talking the state's T. Mobile. No one really goes for T mobile, but they've actually been getting better. But like at the beginning they were a joke.

Manuel:
[20:27] And no one really goes.

[20:32] There were right and it's the opposite here here. They're like the big used to be state owned company.
Um and they like run most of the infrastructure even for like DSL and stuff like that.
So they're like the big one telecom, then there's Vodafone which is the other big one, more or less the same size, maybe a little bit smaller. They also have their own infrastructure all of that.
But also by the way, all of these companies now do internet via DSL via fiber. They also do tv, they do all the things but we're talking about mobile phones now.
And the 3rd 1 is 02 And it's actually called 02 something now because they emerged Mhm.
What do they call it? And they just called 02.

Jack:
[21:16] Telefonica was like yeah those three big ones and you can go directly to them and make country with yeah, be careful doing, be careful.

Manuel:
[21:16] Mhm. Telefonica. Yeah, something like that.

Jae:
[21:17] They're called H20 mm hmm Big one and you can right them and make with yeah, be careful doing that.

Manuel:
[21:20] Those are the three big ones and you can go directly to them and make a contract with them.
Be careful doing that because it's really expensive and like yeah, if you get let's just try this if you get a the network is very good.

Jack:
[21:29] Especially T mobile. It's wild expensive, really expensive. And like if you get supposedly the network is better supposedly in the country if you're in Brandenburg a lot.

Manuel:
[21:39] Um So if you want like the best of the best and you don't care,
you can get a contract with telecom and it will be for example for 12 gigabytes a month, you pay €50 a month and you're locked in for,
two years and you can't get out of the contract for two years.
So then it's similar for vodafone and 40202 is a little bit more affordable I think.
And and in terms of the networks, telephone telecom and Vodafone are really good.
02 is really good in the big city. So as long as you're in Berlin I think, which is where we live but as soon as you go to the countryside or you go on a trip it starts getting really flaky.
Um and so those are kind of the three and then all of them,
kind of sell their services to other companies and there's a million companies that you can get either a prepaid plan with or a two year contract and it will be much cheaper and it'll be kind of different.

[22:46] Amounts of gigabytes that you get per month and stuff like that and as you mentioned, Jack it might not be prioritized um but they will be on one of the networks.
So for example const are the one that I use and curry and now you is the telecom network.
So it is a really good network. Like the coverage is really good but it is still slower than if you go directly to telecom because it's like not the full lt speed or whatever,
and then Vodafone has companies that Use their network and the same 40.2.
I don't remember who I was with. I went kong start and then some third company, the ones that I hear a lot about are the green one is debutante.

Jack:
[23:18] I don't remember who I was with. I went kong star and then some other third company I feel like it's green. Are the Green one is dead mm mm mm mm mm nine.

Manuel:
[23:29] Oh probably a lot of you can't just go into a supermarket.
So I. D. Has I. D. Talk and that's like easy because there's all the supermarkets anywhere and it's really cheap and you just go in and you get I. D. Talk and I think that's probably the 02 network where that's based on. So.

Jae:
[23:48] I have a little bit of advice for people um if you are just getting here and you like you just need like a prepaid, I recommend getting a prepaid. I end up going with the telecom one.
But I think if you're just looking for something temporarily, definitely.

Jack:
[24:01] Actual telecom, wow, you are fancy. You're like that metal card. I mean if you're going to splurge on something, I think Net like mobile connection is the one to do it.

Jae:
[24:02] Mhm. I have the actual telephone. I wanted the top of the top, the top of the top,
look, I'm not trying to get lost in the city, but like, especially, I mean, I think I just bought the kong star thing, so I think I was just like in a rush.
So if I was to redo it, I probably would have gone for that.
Like all the talk or like a cheaper prepaid and may not have the best service right now.
But if you're in the city which I'm going to stay in the city, Then it would have been like, it's not that bad because I'm paying because the telecom prepaid ones are not the best, just like 5GB for €25.
Um Yeah, and that, yeah.

Manuel:
[24:42] No don't do that.

Jack:
[24:44] Blink and it's gone. I think I was with winsome And I think they might be on the 02 network and I feel like they were slightly cheaper than Kong star.

Jae:
[24:47] And I think they might be on the outer network and I feel like they were almost yes, but also be careful going into the stores because I went to the Vodafone store,
and like this is one of a little bit of my culture that I talked about in the last episode, but like I was just trying to get a prepaid and I was trying to get me on this like 50 year old contract and I'm like, all I want was a prepaid and the only reason why I went with the telecom one was because I didn't have to talk to anybody.
It was literally on the shelf that just had five gigabytes.
I just didn't have to really talk to me just like here, take this, take my card.
Um, mentioned oh, when you're on.

Manuel:
[25:20] So just to compare I mentioned this 12 gigabyte plan is €50 on telecom and on kong star, a 15 gigabyte Plan is €22 and it's more or less the same.

Jae:
[25:29] Plan is 20 it's more or less the same. Likely no, I mean.

Manuel:
[25:32] It's slightly slower maybe. But it's also lt 50 and so there's a giant difference in price and not you won't really feel the difference there. I got lucky and there was a promotion.

Jae:
[25:37] And so christ and not you won't, I'll even add to that.
Um there I got lucky and there was a promotion so I got 18 gigabytes for €22 with five G. So Conocer is definitely the way to go.

Manuel:
[25:49] Yeah and okay so we'll we'll put a constor link in the show notes and there are,
kind of three different options you can get prepaid which if you're only here for a short amount of time I think is good because then you only like you have to charge it and then you use it and then when you're out of credit it stops working.
If you're here for the long term I would get like a contract tarif,
It's essentially the same except like it just charges you after you've already used it and I for example have a have their,
fair flat or whatever where you can basically say hey I want to use up to 18 GB per month.
But if I only use five then it will be cheaper.
And so there's these different options and so I would just get that he used to find a good bye.

Jack:
[26:37] When have you ever used 5GB in a month So Little You Don't?

Manuel:
[26:39] I don't leave the house that often.
But yeah and the nice thing about const are in comparison to many other companies is that they let you do a contract postpaid where you pay after the fact without,
like a two year lock in like most companies including consular has that option where they lock you in for two years.
But here you can Pay a little bit extra €35 once and then you don't have the lock in so you can switch any time.
I hate being locked into. I also did. And then I realized that I was just paying these companies anyway for two years.

Jack:
[27:14] I also did and then I realized that I was just paying these companies anyway for two years, so I felt that's when I got locked in and I think.

Manuel:
[27:20] But that's when I got locked in. And I think Germany is also quite predatory with contracts where if you don't tell them you're canceling your contract three months before you are then locked in again for another two years. Good news.

Jack:
[27:23] Germany is also quite predatory with contracts where if you don't tell them you're canceling your contract three months before you're then locked in again for like another two years.
It is wild, but it's changing or it has changed, was it just for phone contracts are also for jim's, I feel like it might be just for phone contracts especially.

Manuel:
[27:34] But it's changing, it's it's illegal now the EU has changed the loss and now I feel like it might be just Yeah, especially also DSL contracts, things like that jim's I'm not sure.

Jack:
[27:43] Yeah, it's just, I don't know, oh yeah, those contracts, so I'm John Reed fancy fancy fancy, how do you have any money?

Jae:
[27:48] Oh yeah, those gym contracts. So I'm on like the John Reed fitness thing.

Manuel:
[27:49] Some contracts, so I'm on John Reed Isn't that also the.

Jae:
[27:53] Um Yeah, well I'm actually using a promotion right now, so we're just trying it out but like, like there was like the silver membership's like €35 a month, which is pretty good.

Jack:
[27:56] You're like, what the hell?
But like, like there was like the silver membership a month, which is pretty good, but then that's like a two year, I just John Reed the whole okay.

Jae:
[28:06] But then that's like a two year contract John Reed I'm okay.

Jack:
[28:13] This is a completely uneducated opinion because I've never been in there, I've just heard things and seen pictures maybe, but why is there like books and carpets and things in the gym you don't want that, It's like.

Jae:
[28:13] This is a completely uneducated opinion because I've never been in there. I've just yeah, they're okay.
There's a weird design like, like they were trying to go for I guess it's very like hips Torri type of, I mean like, like really like that's how you feel inside of it.

Jack:
[28:26] Trying to yeah, like weird hotel lobby with gym equipment.

Jae:
[28:35] Like, like it's like, like even like the machines, someone there are more like leather brown and very like rustic.

Jack:
[28:37] Like even like the machines, some of them are more like leather brown and does it not just smell of old sweat?

Jae:
[28:44] No, it doesn't look like it smells like a normal gym at the end of the day. I mean the music is actually pretty good and I was very impressed the music choices um 1990 a month.

Jack:
[28:45] It doesn't look like it smells like a normal, I mean the music is actually very, I mean I'm a big fan of superfit and that 1990 a month or something super cheap, very clean.

Jae:
[28:56] Super cheap, very clean. They have a sauna, Superfit different from McFit Gotcha.

Jack:
[28:58] They have a sauna, they have a women's gym section Yes, it's more McFit e I told j about McFit and he was like McFit Actually.

Manuel:
[29:05] I I know nothing about this topic. I told jay about McFit and he was like McFit Ha, that's hilarious, my friend, they rebranded into fancy.

Jae:
[29:06] Hi, he was like, I laughed but actually, I mean like it's a well respected, they did and they're connected to John Reed like they're all and so jim.

Jack:
[29:12] They rebranded, they rebranded into to trying to be fancy.
Yeah, because yeah, there was some James, what do you do if you want to go to like what?

Manuel:
[29:17] Okay, hold on, explain. So gyms, what do you do if you want to go to the gym? What's the cheap option? What's the media motion? What's the.

Jae:
[29:22] Want what is it? What's the what?
Okay from my research, it was like McFit is like the like that's like the biggest one.
No, but it's not like it's not actually the bottom of the barrel, it sounds like it is, it sounds like Mcdonald's I was laughing like, like I was, I was like ha ha ha this is so stupid.
But actually it's like probably the biggest one is like, is for America we have one called Gold's gym which is just like a very like everywhere and we have a ghost from L. A. Fitness, it's just one of them, so it's not like a bad option.
Um and then you have there like brother company, which is John Reed which John Reed,
a little bit more expensive and you're not necessarily paying for better equipment, you're paying for the atmosphere, you're paying for like the, what we just talked about, where there's bookshelves and carpets, you know?

Jack:
[30:06] The carpets, the shag carpets and just this interesting by and you're paying for the music and then there's does John Reed Do they have classes like body pump?

Jae:
[30:10] Um and just this interesting vibe and you're paying for the music and then there's FIT X there's Superfit yeah, they have like classes and stuff. I haven't done any of the classes, but they have like different types of options.
I don't like if you're just looking for like a gym, like honestly the cheapest one is always probably the best one.
Um but John Reed does look cool, you know, it is instagram a ble that's, I think yes, I think that was their goal to, was to have like, that's where all the gays go.

Jack:
[30:36] I mean cool, cool is um, it's so.

Manuel:
[30:42] They have a buddha statue.

Jack:
[30:42] That the gays, trust me, the guys go everywhere if you really want to go to the fancy gaze gym, you go to Holmes Place which is wild expensive.

Jae:
[30:46] Really? Holmes Place Holmes Place wild expensive, They have a pool, you don't have to bring your own town. Oh wow.

Manuel:
[30:47] If you really want to go to the fence Holmes Place which is wild.

Jack:
[30:52] They have a pool, you don't have to bring your own towel. Oh wow!

Manuel:
[30:52] They have a yeah, wow, but I have never been um, began Superfit also has lots.

Jack:
[30:56] Um but I'm not, I've never been, I'm a big fan. Superfit also has lots of gays.
Oh my God, John Reed looks you this. I mean you guys are being very generous.

Manuel:
[31:06] It looks like a palace.

Jack:
[31:11] A palace, it looks like it looks like a shish kebab ah which sometimes look like palaces. That, that's true.

Jae:
[31:15] It sometimes looks like palaces that.
Yeah it's a very interesting design like like I'll be honest honest.

Jack:
[31:20] I don't know more is not always more like I'm trying to get out right now, but it's definitely not necessary.

Jae:
[31:25] I don't think you need it like like I'm trying it out right now but it's definitely not necessary.
It it's a bit extra you know I think you do go for the atmosphere or what not by the end of the day look I'm trying to get my workout done and I'm willing to leave you know?

Jack:
[31:31] It's, it's a bit extra, you know, I think you do go for the atmosphere or whatnot, but the end of the day, look, I'm trying to get my workout and I'm going um I would say also it depends where you live because John Reed there's not so many.

Jae:
[31:41] Yeah there's not, I have to like bike like maybe like a few.

Jack:
[31:45] Yeah, yeah, James, I was like, hey, I talk to it, I haven't left the house in 82 years.

Manuel:
[31:46] Exactly. That's So when jay asked me about Jim's, I was like, hey, I haven't gone to a gym in like 10 years, but I will just say this is the first thing I would do is on google maps, type in fitness studio.

Jae:
[31:49] I was like hey I.

Jack:
[31:58] I've been and see which ones are closest to you because that's kind of the most important, but I mean if you're all about fitness, why not walk a little bit longer?

Jae:
[31:58] I've been and see which ones are kind of the most important.

Manuel:
[32:00] And see which ones are closest to you because that's kind of the most important factor.

Jae:
[32:03] But then though I mean if you're all about fitness why not walk a little bit longer to like get to where you want to go. I kind of use it as my exercise somewhere.

Manuel:
[32:06] Fitness. Why not walk a little bit?

Jack:
[32:08] I also walk somewhere.

Manuel:
[32:09] That's a very american thing to say no. I mean like you should.

Jae:
[32:14] That's very american.

Jack:
[32:14] I don't think that's very american um.

Jae:
[32:17] The opposite would be very american. What's the closest one to me live?

Jack:
[32:22] No, I think, yeah, definitely where you live is probably number one, but then there are also quite a few random little, not connected to big change ims, which.

Jae:
[32:27] Probably number one. But then there are also quite a few random little not connected to Big Change gyms which can also be and kind of expensive too. Right?

Jack:
[32:36] Can also be fairly hit and miss, I don't know, I went yeah and expensive but there's also this um urban sports like which is kind of like a club.

Jae:
[32:42] Urban sports like which is kind of like a clock.

Jack:
[32:45] Yeah it's like a online membership that gives you entrance into a bunch of different sporting facility venues and urban sports and so you can like boulder and they've got like beat 81 which is like hit classes.

Jae:
[32:45] Yeah it's like a online membership that gives you entrance into a bunch of different sporting mr what's the car right there.

Jack:
[33:00] They've just got basically all the sports you can think of and you pay like one monthly flat rate and you can go to all of these things for free basically.
Jim wise they have like some random gyms in there but and so if you're not married to a certain location it can be quite good.
I used to use it a lot for bouldering but now I can't climb anymore when, because my nails are too long.
I don't know uh gels and nails climbing doesn't don't match now. We know where your priorities.

Jae:
[33:25] I bet some energy I want to go climbing. I'm climbing cells don't match.

Manuel:
[33:31] Uh The other Okay, now we know where your priorities lie.

Jae:
[33:36] Yeah. Also should you describe your knows?

Jack:
[33:37] Also. Should you describe your they're just there understated green, right?

Jae:
[33:39] No one knows what they look like. Only I thought they were like a green yellowish, but that's your opinion.

Jack:
[33:45] I think they're green. People call them yellow guy was like, they look a bit like fungus. I was like okay well that's your opinion.

Jae:
[33:54] He has non cute nails to their very nice. Yeah, they're a bit longer than like gel extension.

Jack:
[33:57] Yeah they're a bit long and they're like gel extensions.

Jae:
[34:00] Yes. And they're pointy. So don't try to rob him because I might hurt someone not on purpose.

Jack:
[34:02] They're very pointy. They're a bit long at the moment. I'm going to get them done.
Yeah. Also I can't it's not yeah I might hurt someone not on purpose.

Jae:
[34:12] I just, I want to, what does jungle speed?

Manuel:
[34:13] I'm just realizing now, I don't think I want to play jungle speed with you.
John Reed john we'll play, it's a board game where you kind of have to grab things fast and even with just regular nails, there's usually blood.

Jae:
[34:19] Good morning And where,
even with males?

Manuel:
[34:26] But yeah, anyway, so jim is the last thing I would say is I think all of them have like a free trial, right? Like usually you can just try it out for a week. So I would just do that with all the gyms And see which one you like best.

Jae:
[34:27] Yeah. Anyway, so jim is the last thing I would saying it is all of them.
Yeah. Yeah.

[34:39] Yeah. Honestly, I mean it's not rocket science writing a gym, just whatever you like and they're fairly all around the same price too. So it's like, I think like uh yes, Like 19 a month.

Jack:
[34:47] I don't know. I think like uh Yeah, superfit is pretty cheap like 19 a month.
I think it goes up to like €70. Like Holmes Place is wild, probably right up your alley.

Jae:
[34:52] I think it goes up like €70.
Like Holmes Place is what honestly I think I, I looked into Holmes Place but then I was like, it did sound cool, but I'm like, will I ever use any of this type of stuff?

Jack:
[35:04] But then I was like, it did sound cool, but I'm like whatever. They also have a pool, but it's only 25 m.

Jae:
[35:08] Yeah. But oh well that's actually, I do not know what that is.

Jack:
[35:12] Oh, actually, I don't know. Yeah, A pool 25 m.

Jae:
[35:14] I was like, yeah, I'm like meters. What is that?
I can't, don't comprehend. Um but honestly, I mean like for the gems necessarily though, like I do like the fancy type of thing.
But then also I'm just like if whatever, I can just go get my workout in then.
Yeah. So don't ever think that gyms and bank accounts Go with the Easiest one. Yes.

Manuel:
[35:39] You asked me this week, where can I get cheap meals? So you're splurging on all the things? But then on food, that's, that's the area where you want to save money adds up.

Jae:
[35:41] Record. Yes. Well, because because food adds up. I've already spent like, I already know the expensive places.

Jack:
[35:51] So does a metal bankcard literally adds up once a month.

Jae:
[35:52] Yeah, But you know what, the thing about that?

Manuel:
[35:53] You know, what was the annual thing? So I say it once about it. That's wonderful.

Jae:
[35:56] That's the annual thing. So look, I pay it once. I don't think about it for the rest of the year until next year.

Jack:
[36:01] You just want a food flat rate and the members like you're the expert.

Jae:
[36:02] I just want the flute. Yes. I need like a food membership now.

Manuel:
[36:06] So I feel like Jack you're the expert on €1 falafel.

Jae:
[36:08] One year of when you're it actually inflation. Damn.

Jack:
[36:08] €1 for last when you're it actually Inflation hit even the €1 Falafel.
It went up to 1:30 except like maybe two years ago and now it's 1 50 which people are still like, that's amazing like No, it's not.

Jae:
[36:17] Except like maybe two years ago. One that's disgusting.

Jack:
[36:23] It was that's why it's yeah, it's a lot more um it's hard to know. There's always cheap places.

Jae:
[36:25] That's 50 cents more.

Jack:
[36:32] It's basically wherever you are, there are cheap options. That's amazing.
Turkish places. Falafel is really cheap because I was saying like most restaurants, like most Vietnamese restaurants or whatever.

Manuel:
[36:39] Let's define because I was saying like most restaurants, like most Vietnamese restaurants or whatever,
usually you'll pay around 10 to €15 for our main, but then they always have like a lunch menu where if you go between 12 and four, they have like three.

Jack:
[36:45] Usually you'll pay around 10 to €15 for a main, but then they always have like a lunch menu where if you go between 12 and four, they have like three.

Manuel:
[36:57] Of three options, that will be just seven or €8.

Jack:
[36:57] Of three options, that will be just seven or eight years.

Manuel:
[37:01] That's kind of my impression of normal restaurants.

Jack:
[37:01] Yeah. In my mind I think more than 10 I think you can easily eat out.

Manuel:
[37:05] I think you can easy it out quite well.

Jack:
[37:08] Quite well for less than 10 in Berlin I'm not a vegan, I eat really cheap meat.

Manuel:
[37:11] I think vegan restaurants, which I tend to go to our little bit on the price of your side.
That's great. Um, but yeah, so that's kind of the general normal price.

Jack:
[37:17] But yeah, so that's kind of the general normal price. And then if you want live on the cheap one Year of Falafel is probably the yeah, stream we want to, where is that?

Manuel:
[37:23] And then if you want to live on the cheap one year of falafel is probably the, the extreme do we want to, where is that place that some humans.

Jack:
[37:33] No, I can't flughafen star. So yeah, which we can link, it's small, you need to Yeah, but they're good.

Manuel:
[37:36] Which we can link? It's small though? Like you need two or three of them too. Be okay.

Jae:
[37:42] There was a place that I was actually impressed your months. It's like an alexander Platz like with like all like the trams or whatnot.

Manuel:
[37:44] You were.

Jae:
[37:49] Um It was €3 for like, like a subway sandwich and it was a pretty good tasty subway sandwich. It was literally like a like a half of a foot long Subway is like €6. So it was €3 for that.

Manuel:
[37:50] €3. Mm hmm.

[38:00] Well yeah. And the same for kebab, which is I guess three Berlin food, it was invented here.

Jae:
[38:03] Pretty impressive I guess be Berlin.

Manuel:
[38:08] Um, so that's also usually Three years, I don't know that 10 years ago when I was still eating that stuff, it was €3.

Jae:
[38:11] I don't know, 10 years ago.
Yeah, so you got falafel sandwiches and a box.

Manuel:
[38:18] And if you really want to live on the cheap, you'll be eating a lot of bread. Yes.

Jae:
[38:23] Yeah. Yeah it's a lot of very tasty Berlin.

Jack:
[38:24] There's a lot, there is a lot of very tasty places to eat in Berlin, but there's also a lot of very untested places.

Jae:
[38:30] Yeah. But then you also have the option which you mentioned was the grocery store where you can go there and like like I found the actual really nice snack that I like.
Um it is like just like chopped up vegetables and then I buy like that was like €2 and then just get like some hummus and that can be an actual meal. It was very feeling so.

Manuel:
[38:49] Totally, that was my lifesaver in Japan where all the supermarkets have really good prepared food.
Um and it's not like Japan here yet, but the big supermarkets, the big flava, yeah, mostly river.
I feel like they have a salad bar which you can mix your own salad and then you can just go to the bakery and get some bread and you'll have a lot of good food for very little money.

Jae:
[39:16] Yeah. I don't want him eating out is nice but that not can add up, not gonna have it, but it is a good time is just so worth it. Like I will try to save money on a bank account.

Manuel:
[39:17] I know I can be eating out that Jack.

[39:23] But that is something that for me personally is just so worth it.
Like I will try to save money on a bank account like you know priorities. Yeah, but I kind of, I don't know I go out eating a lot. I also can't cook.

Jae:
[39:32] Fair. Yeah look, priorities you know.

Manuel:
[39:39] Um but II.

Jae:
[39:40] But really neither of you guys can.

Jack:
[39:41] Me either. I don't really cook. I eat out constantly.
Yeah. I learned to cook like during the lockdown, early early wave one lockdown I saved wild amounts of money because they had to eat at home and it was like,
I'm choosing to ignore it now because I'm like, I don't need to learn from that experience.
I don't need to because it's also, I don't know, I'm always out and about in Berlin. I never I never, I am at home to eat.
That was the biggest, that's my biggest problem, busy, busy.

Jae:
[40:11] You're a busy man.

Manuel:
[40:14] Wow, bubble tea, that's so 2006 it was.

Jack:
[40:14] There's really good bubble tea as well. I'm now obsessed with bubble tea.

Jae:
[40:14] It's really good bubble oh, Bubble tea.

Jack:
[40:17] I know. I that's what I thought.

Jae:
[40:19] That is like that. Since I was 13 then the bubble tea places became, I don't know.

Jack:
[40:20] Trust me know when I first moved here, it was everywhere, it was everywhere.

Manuel:
[40:24] And then the balloting places became, I don't know places and now they're back to bubble tea and I'm a big fan when they're over.

Jack:
[40:24] And then the bubble tea places became, I don't know burger places and now they're back to bubble tea and I'm a big fan over like four years.

Jae:
[40:29] And now they're back to bubble tea and I then they're overpriced though. They're like four year olds for like.

Manuel:
[40:35] Yeah. And what's good about it? It's just sugar.

Jack:
[40:35] What is overpriced. You pay 1690 for your bank.

Jae:
[40:37] What is okay over? No, actually it's 12 because I have the annual thank you very much. No.

Jack:
[40:45] No. Yeah, it isn't cheap but I just love drinks.

Jae:
[40:50] You love drinks. Like I would ideally have milkshakes all the time but they don't make them here really rough.

Jack:
[40:50] I love drinks. Like I would ideally have milkshakes all the time but they don't make them here.
Yeah, it's rough like I found now one really good burger place that does an amazing milkshake with real ice cream but that's it.

Jae:
[40:58] Like I found now one really good burger place that does an amazing milkshake with real ice cream. But that's it.

Jack:
[41:06] It's called Tommy's Tommy's burger joint. They also do an amazing burger.

Jae:
[41:06] It's called Tommy's don't they Also do an amazing burger. Everyone does burgers.

Jack:
[41:12] Um Yeah, but there's not all burgers are created equal who and Tommy's is high up there.

Jae:
[41:16] That's true. That is very true. High up.
There's a place called like something burger is like in the middle of like these like like subway trams, whatnot. It used to be like a converted toilet.

Jack:
[41:21] There's a place called like something burger is like in the middle.
He's like Subway trams but not, it was ah burgermeister Also Very good. No milkshakes. Very good.

Jae:
[41:29] Yes, I'm very curious to try that place.

Jack:
[41:34] It is good. They became like quite a popular chain.
I feel like like a local chain. There was like burgermeister, they're all puns on the word burger and options now I'll just say.

Manuel:
[41:43] Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of them. There's also what's really nice is that most of these places have vegan options now, I'll just say.

Jack:
[41:52] And then there's also really good options specifically for vegans, smoky greens, very expensive and Vincent vegan, which is in a mall.

Manuel:
[41:52] And then there's also really good options specifically for vegans.
Smoky greens is very expensive but good and Vincent vegan, which is in a mall. I don't know if they have more than one they might um is like the cheap, cheaper but also pretty good.

Jack:
[42:05] Is that the chief cheaper? Also, there's also lots of like vegan vegetarian places in frederickson still, it's like bombs creation the enemies. All right there.

Jae:
[42:12] Yeah, there is. There's a really good, I'll shut this place office called Mom's Creation is a Vietnamese vegan spot. Very good. I had that first day I got here.

Jack:
[42:21] You also vegan. Oh wow.

Jae:
[42:22] Yes, I started, I started vegan vegetarian and slowly I started when I moved here because I was like, why not try something new?
Um, yeah, so there's been no meat, um, that we've consumed in the past week or so.

Manuel:
[42:39] So speaking of drinks, let's let's finish the episode on drinks.
Um How much is a beer at SPT and in a bar?
And how much is a drink drink?
I literally just drink milkshakes and public.

Jack:
[42:52] I literally just drink milkshakes and bubble tea. I don't, I remember that beers used to be a very cheap from Speedy's like 70 cents.

Manuel:
[42:57] I remember that used to be. Oh, very cheap from Spain.
Yeah. I mean compared to a supermarket. No, because like a Yeah, obviously depends on the kind of beer and stuff, but I think like rule of thumb, like a bottle of beer, 03 or whatever will be.

Jack:
[43:04] Can you get like a Sternberg standing for 70 cents?
Is that obviously has inflation hit even them,
rule of thumb like bottle of beer 03 or whatever will be.

Manuel:
[43:18] Less than a euro in a supermarket between a euro, 50 and €2 at SPT And probably around three or 4 at a bar.

Jack:
[43:18] Less than a euro in a supermarket between a euro 50 and €2 at SPT And probably around three or 4 at a bar.

Manuel:
[43:28] And then cocktails depending on the place.

Jack:
[43:28] Yeah, that sounds about right cocktails depending on the place.

Jae:
[43:32] 9 to 11.

Manuel:
[43:33] Yeah. If it's like a good place.

Jack:
[43:33] Yeah, an aperol spritz, you can get used to be like 55 50.
I feel like now it's like 66 50 everywhere. A spritz.

Manuel:
[43:39] I feel like now it's like six everywhere.

Jack:
[43:43] Yeah, it went up obviously. The nice thing about Germany, totally legally drink outside, so lots of from the summer and hear from our Mhm.

Manuel:
[43:43] Yeah, when that obviously the nice thing about Germany is that you can totally legally drink outside. So lots of people, especially in the summer, just get beer at the supermarket or at its beauty and then hang out on what's the bridge in cuts back.

Jack:
[43:55] Out on and,
oh it is, it does have a name, it's called Admirals Booker.

Manuel:
[44:00] Oh, is it? Does have a name cold.

[44:06] Yeah. That's like one of the places to hang out in the summer and just sit on the bridge and have a beer.

Jae:
[44:11] Really, he's very tasty, but now the police shut it down like clockwork, nine o'clock for 10:00 or whenever the sun comes down, clearing that place.

Jack:
[44:12] Mhm. It's very tasty. But now the police shut it down like clockwork, nine o'clock or 10 o'clock or whenever the sun comes down there, clearing that place, like nobody's business.

Jae:
[44:22] Nobody interesting interesting.
Overall, I do like it here. It's, it's a good place. I like Berlin a lot.

Jack:
[44:27] Overall. I do like it,
nice. Like this is the second episode you've had here. Okay, interesting.

Jae:
[44:33] Yeah, in the last episode I was not in a good mood, so that was so we're dealing with culture shock and I.

Jack:
[44:37] Yeah. Yeah. Is it what you expected.

Jae:
[44:44] I mean, yes, it's just like I'm a perfectionist and I get um, can be so hard on myself sometimes.
So any obstacle that I go into, I'm just like, ah, it's my fault. Something that I did was wrong. Like how they're like, why did this happen?
Um, but everything else, I mean like, I think it's better than I imagined, which like I'm like, I'm realizing now because I like to be fair, I didn't really have any reference of what to imagine it to be. I just knew I wanted to be here.

Jack:
[45:11] It also just got nice weather wise, like literally when you came, it's been nice since then. So you have that you didn't have to deal with the winner, which was gross.

Jae:
[45:12] Oh yes, it is beautiful.
Do you have that? No, and I did it on purpose. I was like, I do not want to be here.

Jack:
[45:21] Now I don't want what I'll deal with it when it comes, enjoy these beautiful days.

Jae:
[45:22] I don't want that to be my welcoming. I'll deal with it when it comes, but at least let me enjoy these beautiful days of like, you know, the sun and feeling happy, you know, without having to take medication vitamin D.

Jack:
[45:29] You know this feeling happy, you know, without having to take medication.
Indeed, you know, seasonal depression, it's a thing I did not know until this year. I was like, this is what you guys were talking about. It's gross.

Jae:
[45:36] You know, so this is what you guys were talking about.

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